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  • #19970
    KaraZigay
    Member

    I have read articles on how olive leaf extract is effective in healing herpes. Even stories of it being cured! I would like to know your take on it, Dr.Kelly. Have you researched olive leaf extract and its healing properties for herpes? And I also would like anyone else who is aware and educated/had experience with this to share!

    Thank you!

    #19281

    In reply to: 18 years ago…

    Morgan
    Member

    Laura,

    I can’t thank you enough for your email. Your kind words have echoed in my head all evening. You chose the word Courage. I needed that. I go through moments of feeling on top of the world to moments of anger at my ex husband to anxiety. Fear isn’t even really there… just the anxiety. I also don’t know how to say… oh, and I had a rare cancer too… ugh. Today, I sat back in my chair and I realized, I was happy and thriving before I met this man, so should he choose to not accept me as I am, I will be the same happy and thriving and CANCER FREE person I was before I met him. That was quite freeing. You helped remind me to be courageous. Thank you! I want to keep encouraging you to never give up on finding relief for yourself as well. I have a friend that has had great success with some more holistic treatments in minimizing her episodes and minimizing the pain. I will continue to encourage you to do the same! Keep praying and keep trying!
    ~Morgan

    #19188
    Dr. Kelly
    Keymaster

    I am on my fourth outbreak in 3.5 weeks. Nothing is working, Not Valtrex, not zoivax, not lysine, not Melissa leaf, nothing.

    For the past two years it has been almost never ending but not like this. IT WON’T STOP.

    Doctors here in Alberta are not very educated on herpes. I consulted a naturopath and that has not met with any success either except that I am now out about $3000.00.

    I am so depressed and worn out from this.

    Any thoughts as to what sort of treatment to next try? All the literature that I have read says that it gets better but mine is not, it is getting worse.

    The last time I posted on this website, no one answered me but I would really appreciate it if someone would take the time to help. I don’t know where else to go for help.

    Thanks for your time.

    #19866
    IndigoSky
    Participant

    I am on my fourth outbreak in 3.5 weeks. Nothing is working, Not Valtrex, not zoivax, not lysine, not Melissa leaf, nothing.

    For the past two years it has been almost never ending but not like this. IT WON’T STOP.

    Doctors here in Alberta are not very educated on herpes. I consulted a naturopath and that has not met with any success either except that I am now out about $3000.00.

    I am so depressed and worn out from this.

    Any thoughts as to what sort of treatment to next try? All the literature that I have read says that it gets better but mine is not, it is getting worse.

    The last time I posted on this website, no one answered me but I would really appreciate it if someone would take the time to help. I don’t know where else to go for help.

    Thanks for your time.

    #19230
    ivon7.13
    Member

    Hello Everyone,

    My name is Ivon I just recently turned 20 & I also was resently diagnosed with hsv 2. It could of happened months ago or maybe even longer according to my doctor.
    I joined this website for the same reason everyone else did because you & I feel maybe the same way. Hopeless, disgusted in ourselves, & just a loss of self worth. I also came because I want to tell me experience & how I handled it. Maybe hoping to help someone else the same age or older.
    I say it so calmly now because I’m learned to accept what I have it’s not going anywhere any time soon so might as well make myself comfortable with it & learned to cope.
    The day I had gone to the my doctor was about a month or so ago (i know it’s a very short time from being diagnosed to be so accepting of herpes) I had gone only because a friend of mine had told me she has a friend who has hsv2 of the mouth. I didn’t think much of it didn’t judge him when she told me…that was until I had finally met him. Tho I was being nice & laughing making jokes with him, deep down I was thinking to myself “don’t touch, don’t breath on me, don’t even look my way”. Mind you this was before I was educated on what herpes was because after I had reseached on it I felt horrible for the way I secretly treated him in my mind, like a dang swine. So many people have it 25-30% people have hsv2 that’s a pretty high percentage if you ask me. Plus adding the possible millions that go undiagnosed. So I started to think could I have it. I then started to stress & freak over every little thing. Omg is that a cold sore on the inside of my lip could It be type 1 or 2 God please no don’t let this happen to me I’m not one of those girls. It can’t be possible it only happens to dirty girls. There’s no way, I’ve been in a serious relationship for 2 years now. I’ve never had a symptom. Oh but little did I know you could have hsv & never have an outbreak. But what if I do will my bf leave me is my life over. Will I be able to have kids & love them like any normal mother. What would my parents think? They would be ashamed & not see me as there sweet little princess of their’s (As of now I have not told them but I bring it up a lot hoping one day I can open up to them). The ones I care about the most my mommy & daddy-o. Not just that but could I live knowing I infected the one man who has truly & I can say truly ever loved me can I go on knowing “I INFECTED HIM” well shockingly enough he’s been the one to help me with copeing.
    When we found out he was right in the room with me even before we found out he was reassuring me “Ivon even if you have it just know, just like your herp I’m not going anywhere” lol yes it made me laugh but it was still scary. So when the doctor called me a week after getting my blood tested. That morning he told I prefer to give you your results in person this is not something anyone should ever do over the phone positive or negative. So as you could guess even before leaving the house I was already breaking down. Telling my bf if you leave me I understand everyone deserves to live a normal life & he told me “sugerbooger (my nickname lol) if you have it then so do I & no way in hell I’m letting a little virus take you away from me. We’ve came way to far to let it go now over something small like this”. Once we had arrived to the clinic he gave me my results “you have been exposed to hvs type 2” & with those words my heart just sunk to the bottom pit of my stomach. After finding out I was at a loss for words. My bf then asked if he could get tested for hsv to comfort me & letting me know if he has it it’s fine if not it’s also fine. We got his & it came back positive as well. We don’t know who gave it to who. If I had it first or him but we never would of known since neither of us have NEVER had an outbreak. I didn’t have to fear of thinking did he cheat because I know my bf he’s not the kind of man to do that. Heck he goes crazy if I lay on the other side of the living room not next to him. We’re inseparable Its been me & it’s been only him. So we moved on contiued…well continuing to live our lives the way be did before we were diagnosed. The doctor told us there is no need for treatment as of right now since neither of us have had sores & may never have one but it just left me in shock but what was I really expecting it could only go 2 ways, yes you have it or no you don’t.
    So after I read & researched day & night for an entire week on this virus & why do people treat other people with this virus so horribly. I came to the conclusion that before I had educated myself on what herpes was. The only information that I ever got was from the media & we all know the media can be. Cruel & heartless when it comes to herpes. So now my mind is more open. I’m much more wiser when it come to other people with the same issue as mine or different. I’m just so thankful to have found a partner so understanding like my boyfriend. That I could be cooking food waiting for him to come from work, washing clothes the dogs running around the yard & then suddenly realize I have hsv2 & doesn’t effect me at all. I first had to find peace in myself to find peace in life. Only once in awhile I get my moments like dang I’ll have this for the rest of my life then I think “oh well like everything else life goes on & I’m not going to be left behind!” Because, I’m still ME My bf is still HIMSELF!!! I’m still the girl I was before this. He’s still the same man he was before this. I’m still that girl that loves to sing, go on walks, enjoys being with friends. He’s still that man that loves to be out in the yard with our 3 dogs. We just now have a little addition to ourselves. Your life is not over. When you have the right people around life will always be amazing. So please know I’m here to help with what I can & I’m ALWAYS here to listen when no one else will.

    I’M STILL IVON!!!💜

    #19668
    ivon7.13
    Member

    Hello Everyone,

    My name is Ivon I just recently turned 20 & I also was resently diagnosed with hsv 2. It could of happened months ago or maybe even longer according to my doctor.
    I joined this website for the same reason everyone else did because you & I feel maybe the same way. Hopeless, disgusted in ourselves, & just a loss of self worth. I also came because I want to tell me experience & how I handled it. Maybe hoping to help someone else the same age or older.
    I say it so calmly now because I’m learned to accept what I have it’s not going anywhere any time soon so might as well make myself comfortable with it & learned to cope.
    The day I had gone to the my doctor was about a month or so ago (i know it’s a very short time from being diagnosed to be so accepting of herpes) I had gone only because a friend of mine had told me she has a friend who has hsv2 of the mouth. I didn’t think much of it didn’t judge him when she told me…that was until I had finally met him. Tho I was being nice & laughing making jokes with him, deep down I was thinking to myself “don’t touch, don’t breath on me, don’t even look my way”. Mind you this was before I was educated on what herpes was because after I had reseached on it I felt horrible for the way I secretly treated him in my mind, like a dang swine. So many people have it 25-30% people have hsv2 that’s a pretty high percentage if you ask me. Plus adding the possible millions that go undiagnosed. So I started to think could I have it. I then started to stress & freak over every little thing. Omg is that a cold sore on the inside of my lip could It be type 1 or 2 God please no don’t let this happen to me I’m not one of those girls. It can’t be possible it only happens to dirty girls. There’s no way, I’ve been in a serious relationship for 2 years now. I’ve never had a symptom. Oh but little did I know you could have hsv & never have an outbreak. But what if I do will my bf leave me is my life over. Will I be able to have kids & love them like any normal mother. What would my parents think? They would be ashamed & not see me as there sweet little princess of their’s (As of now I have not told them but I bring it up a lot hoping one day I can open up to them). The ones I care about the most my mommy & daddy-o. Not just that but could I live knowing I infected the one man who has truly & I can say truly ever loved me can I go on knowing “I INFECTED HIM” well shockingly enough he’s been the one to help me with copeing.
    When we found out he was right in the room with me even before we found out he was reassuring me “Ivon even if you have it just know, just like your herp I’m not going anywhere” lol yes it made me laugh but it was still scary. So when the doctor called me a week after getting my blood tested. That morning he told I prefer to give you your results in person this is not something anyone should ever do over the phone positive or negative. So as you could guess even before leaving the house I was already breaking down. Telling my bf if you leave me I understand everyone deserves to live a normal life & he told me “sugerbooger (my nickname lol) if you have it then so do I & no way in hell I’m letting a little virus take you away from me. We’ve came way to far to let it go now over something small like this”. Once we had arrived to the clinic he gave me my results “you have been exposed to hvs type 2” & with those words my heart just sunk to the bottom pit of my stomach. After finding out I was at a loss for words. My bf then asked if he could get tested for hsv to comfort me & letting me know if he has it it’s fine if not it’s also fine. We got his & it came back positive as well. We don’t know who gave it to who. If I had it first or him but we never would of known since neither of us have NEVER had an outbreak. I didn’t have to fear of thinking did he cheat because I know my bf he’s not the kind of man to do that. Heck he goes crazy if I lay on the other side of the living room not next to him. We’re inseparable Its been me & it’s been only him. So we moved on contiued…well continuing to live our lives the way be did before we were diagnosed. The doctor told us there is no need for treatment as of right now since neither of us have had sores & may never have one but it just left me in shock but what was I really expecting it could only go 2 ways, yes you have it or no you don’t.
    So after I read & researched day & night for an entire week on this virus & why do people treat other people with this virus so horribly. I came to the conclusion that before I had educated myself on what herpes was. The only information that I ever got was from the media & we all know the media can be. Cruel & heartless when it comes to herpes. So now my mind is more open. I’m much more wiser when it come to other people with the same issue as mine or different. I’m just so thankful to have found a partner so understanding like my boyfriend. That I could be cooking food waiting for him to come from work, washing clothes the dogs running around the yard & then suddenly realize I have hsv2 & doesn’t effect me at all. I first had to find peace in myself to find peace in life. Only once in awhile I get my moments like dang I’ll have this for the rest of my life then I think “oh well like everything else life goes on & I’m not going to be left behind!” Because, I’m still ME My bf is still HIMSELF!!! I’m still the girl I was before this. He’s still the same man he was before this. I’m still that girl that loves to sing, go on walks, enjoys being with friends. He’s still that man that loves to be out in the yard with our 3 dogs. We just now have a little addition to ourselves. Your life is not over. When you have the right people around life will always be amazing. So please know I’m here to help with what I can & I’m ALWAYS here to listen when no one else will.

    I’M STILL IVON!!!💜

    #19814
    Giselle
    Participant

    I am into the fifth month of dealing with a severe herpes outbreak. Because the herpes virus was active in my body for nearly three weeks before I was diagnosed, it really took a firm hold. I had three cycles of acyclovir before the outbreaks were stopped and now taking a low maintenance dose. Fortunately, I am no longer having any outbreaks but am suffering with post herpetic neuralgia.

    I am desperately seeking advice for my healing now. The neuralgia has left me weak and walking with difficulty. I fatigue easily and must rest throughout the day after simple housekeeping tasks. I rarely leave the house.

    Unfortunately, even the most gentle massage that I had last week was disruptive and caused an angry flare-up of my sensitive, damaged nerves in my buttocks, hips, and legs running down to my little toes.

    I was considering chiropractic treatments but fear they, too, might be too intrusive. But, this avenue of therapy might be beneficial in the long term.

    Does anyone have advice for me? Has anyone had success with treatment for this continuing pain???

    #19344
    Lindy
    Participant

    Hi everyone,
    I am completely new to forums and online courses so am feeling my way with all this.

    Unfortunately I’m not new to the Herpes experience. I have been trying to think back to when the symptoms first started. I’m not 100% sure but I think it was after the birth of my daughter. She has just had her 26th birthday.

    After every period and after intercourse I would experience incessant itching and often soreness. Month after month I would go to my doct and she would prescribe treatments for thrush. I remember having swabs for Candida and the results coming back ‘overgrowth of natural flora’. I didn’t really understand it but then, you trust your doctor don’t you.
    My husband had also complained of itching after intercourse.

    My husband and I separated when my daughter was 9 years old. I now suspect that he passed Herpes to me as by his own admission ‘wasn’t exactly faithful ‘. The symptoms were so classic with what I know now.
    In the time that followed I had two casual encounters but it wasn’t until 4 years later that a more regular relationship. This is when the familiar itchy-sore feeling returned. In desperation I went to a different doctor near my work. He told my he believed I had been misdiagnosed and took swabs which confirmed I had HSV1. The guy I was with was also tested and it was confirmed that he had antibodies. He had experienced flu like symptoms and I guess I’ll never know if I passed it to him or not. I began taking antivirals and we continued the relationship off and on for the next five years. It became obvious that the relationship was going nowhere and we stopped seeing each other.

    That was six years ago. In that time I lost my mother who I had been caring for and saw my daughter engaged and then married. I also suffered a serious bleed on my brain. Even though it was about six months before I could drive again and return to work, I came through that relatively unscathed. Then I was diagnosed with breast cancer which, after 12 months of treatment, I now seem to have conquered.

    Recently I have met a really nice man who is also interested in me. Something that I had pretty much given up on at 62. The only thing holding me back now is what feels like a curse – HERPES!!!

    I am hoping I will be able to work through this and have the kind of retirement I would have chosen for myself- with a loving partner.

    #19347
    Seeking support.
    Participant

    Hi everybody,
    As I write these words tonight tears are running down my cheeks and my heart is heavy. I’ll try to make this long story brief.
    I’ve lost over 100 lbs in the last year or two. I’m 46 years old and I’ve been searching for my soul mate all my life, longing desperately for the love I was never shown as an abused child, especially from my father. I don’t want to fall into victim mode here, just giving some pertinent background information.
    I moved approx a year ago to a new location and decided that along with my new job and life I would join a dating site and start dating. After all, I looked really good now after losing so much weight. A guy that was not very good looking kept pursuing me. I brushed him off at first, but he just wrote and texted some of the nicest things, things I’d longed to hear all my life. I let him take me out to dinner and it turned out he was a decent fellow (or so I thought.) He was divorced, two kids, had a good job and he was so dadgum nice to me. I was so unused to that. We only dated a week, and it was so stupid of me, but one night, even though I wasn’t really attracted to him, I became sexual with him. We didn’t have sex, but there was a lot of intimate touching and he kept spitting on his fingers to try to “manipulate” me better. I’m sorry if this is too graphic. He layed on top of me, but again, we never had sex. The next day he became a different person. We were lying on his bed talking about our desires for the future and all he could bring up was his sexual fantasies and I could tell it was in hopes that I would engage in them, even if it was with other people. (which I wouldn’t do.) No judgement to those who would or do. He switched into this nice, responsible, possibly good boyfriend type person into this creepy, disgusting middle aged man looking for only one thing. I could tell at that point I’d made a big mistake and I got up and asked him to take me home. And, he became angry, but he got up and took me home. On the way home he had this angry look on his face and said things that made me feel like a small child again trying to appease my father, who, btw, never sexually abused me, but some heavy emotional and physical abuse just about did me in. I found myself doing the oddest thing. I APOLOGIZED to him and found myself in the position of one who was begging to be forgiven. Even though we’d spent such a short time together, it was everyday for a week and that somehow meant something to me. I wasn’t used to male attention, and even though I have family I’m not close to them, as is often the case coming out of an abusive home. I’ve struggled with depression, ocd, and intense loneliness all my life, but having someone around for even a week made me somehow feel like I wasn’t ready to let go of that. I know this makes no sense to many people. And you think it would end there, but it didn’t.
    I kept kissing up to him, and he kept doing the silent treatment until I told him that I would take him out to dinner and I WOULD PAY. Boy did roles switch drastically, and all because this little, tiny hurt girl came out of nowhere. I didn’t think she was still that hurt or dysfunctional.
    Anyway, we went out to eat. The waitstaff at the restaurant commented on how pretty I was and said I looked like the Little Mermaid. Quite a compliment to me. He just sat glaring across the table at me, or ignoring me completely. I felt devestated. I had two mojitos and I guess because I hadn’t been eating much, and definitely didn’t eat hardly anything that night, I got drunk. He dropped me off at home and from all the hurt and confusion I begged him to stay. I couldn’t handle the rejection. Now keep in mind. This man appeared respectable, but was not a good looking man by any means and I was not attracted to him. My hurt inner self was leading the show.
    He ended up telling me to pack a bag, I was going to stay the night with him but we were not going to have sex or be intimate. I did what he told me to do. We got to his house, got into bed and I tried my best to get some much needed attention from him. I really wanted to talk or cuddle or something to make my hurt go away, but what it turned into was something ugly, sexually abusive, somewhat violent, degrading, humiliating, and incredibly disrespectful. The room was spinning due to the alcohol and my heart was breaking. It took me days or weeks to realize……I’d been sexually assaulted. He went to sleep and I crawled into his living room, still drunk, got on the couch and cried while trying not to be sick or have a panic attack. (It didn’t occur to me a the time that I’d been assaulted. Abuse had been the norm and I suppose my inner child just didn’t see the difference.) I know now that I should’ve just walked out the door. But, what’s done was done. I finally woke him up after me being awake and crying all night. He got up and took me home. Told me he was going to spend the day with his mother but he’d call me when he got back to town. I needed a shower, BAD. My phone made a noise like it does when somebody sends you a message through the dating sight. I thought it would be him, though I don’t know why, he could’ve just called me. I was a message from someone else, but that’s not what I noticed. What I noticed is the guy who just dropped me off was “online” on the dating site looking around for somebody else already. I was sickened again, mostly at myself. I texted him and told him that I saw him on there, he denied it, became incredibly angry and never called back. And, even though I was nowhere close to loving, or even liking him, somehow his energy stayed in my forcefield and I fell into a deep depression, along with nightmares and heavy melancholy when I would go by a place where we had been together. I suppose it’s because I went from feeling like I “belonged” for a short, short period of time to feeling all alone again. Little did I know what was to come.
    A few months later I met another guy I started talking to. Nice guy, liked him a lot. But I wanted to make sure I was safe from my encounter with the previous guy. I also knew that I’d had some very swollen lymph nodes in the crease of my leg and private parts and didn’t know why. Neither did the doctor I went to see. I ended up going through an online doctor, went and had blood taken. All results came back negative except for one, herpes simplex I. I wasn’t even sure what that was. I made an appt with my doctor right away. He ended up telling me that he didn’t think I got it during the assault, that I’d probably always had it from childhood and that it would likely never manifest. He explained that it was more of the cold sore type virus and since nothing had happened I really didn’t need to tell this new guy I was dating. Anyway, the new guy I was dating knew I was interested in exercise and bought me a Pilates cd. One night while doing pilates I started getting this stinging, burning, tingling feeling kind of in the top part of the crack of my bottom. In the next few days I got a “place” that looked more like a cut than anything else. I went to my doctor again who told me I was obsessing and I had to talk him into taking a culture. He did, and a few days later his nurse called while I was on my way to work and told me I needed to come in and see him that day. After I had seen him I developed three or four other “cuts” in the same area. He confirmed that the lesion was HSV I. I was devastated and felt I would die. Heck, I WANTED to die. I knew the first thing I had to do was tell my new guy. He lived an hour away from me, so I cried all the way there, knowing we would break up. Fortunately, we had never gotten into a situation where HSV I could have been spread sexually. We had kissed before, and I wasn’t aware of asymptomatic shedding until after the diagnosis and lots of internet research to figure out what was going on. It was then that I figured out that I got HSV I probably from asymptomatic shedding from the guy would assaulted me, probably because he kept spitting on me and his fingers. I never saw a lesion anywhere, but it was dark and I can’t say for sure. Anyway, It turned out that the new guy did not break up with me. It’s likely that we had never been sexual b/c I think his sex drive was low. And I never pushed it, b/c I was happy with his companionship. We didn’t have a deep love affair, but were together for eight months. We had a cordial breakup because he said he thought I needed someone more sensitive than him. And, I suppose he’s right. But, I was always strong around him. We only saw each other on weekends because we lived an hour apart, but it was great again to have somebody to belong to, at least on the weekends. We had some great times together. But that was approx 3-4 weeks ago and I’m feeling “thrown away” again, but this time it’s worse because of herpes. I long to meet my soulmate and have a fairytale story like Dr. Kelly. I just read her book. I’ve got so many questions. But most of all I just hurt right now. All I think about is herpes and stds. I wake up in the middle of the night almost sick to my stomach thinking about it and the idea of spending the rest of my life alone. My depression worsened, and I still having nightmares sometimes, but my doctor started me on some psych meds, (antidepressants, antianxiety and a med to help me sleep.) I didn’t want to go there, but I was, and still am at times, to the point where I think I might harm myself. But I have two pets that mean the world to me, and I when I look at them I know that isn’t an option.
    So, that’s me, that’s what happened. I don’t feel any better yet after telling the story. But, hopefully I will. I don’t even know if anybody will read this. But if you do, thanks, it means a lot to me.

    #19355
    hina
    Participant

    Hi m Hina m 24,I ws diagnosed hsv2 positive wen I ws 22.M on valcivir suppressive therapy. Fr more den 1.5 years.Bt around 1 month ago I stop taking valcivir nd again I got a outbreak.wenever I stopped d intake I face an outbreak…is dere any permanent treatment???m really Pissed off..

    #19368
    Winter
    Participant

    Hi lee212,

    Well I am not a doctor so all I can speak of is from experience. Have you been tested again? If you had just been exposed right before your initial tests it may not have shown up yet.

    That being said, I had similar struggles to you when I definitely did not have the herpes virus yet. I have sensitivity to soaps, got easily irritated from just exercising even though I would immediately take a shower and I was prone to BV on and off for years. A few months after my boyfriend at the time and I broke up I stopped constantly trying to treat it (because I didn’t have to worry about disappointing him) and it cleared up. I haven’t had a BV infection in years since then. I’m not sure if I was allergic to him (I am being serious) or intercourse was not allowing me to heal by constantly re-irritating the area from friction or the treatments themselves were causing more imbalances. I believe semen is acidic and soap is alkaline so it could be a pH imbalance too.

    First, I would get re-tested for any STD’s. Second, I would try to cut back on intercourse if possible just to see if it gives you time to heal. Be careful with self treating with tea tree oil. I did the same and would get temporary relief too, but it is very strong and could be killing the good bacteria and also may be irritating for us with sensitivity in the long run. A doctor also diagnosed me with Vulvodynia as a possible cause. I don’t like throwing out diagnosis since I am not a doctor. Just suggesting something to possibly research and ask your doctor about.

    I hope this helped and I hope you feel better.

    #19876
    Claire
    Participant

    Hi West,
    I had an outbreak that lasted about 3 months as well. My outbreaks before then only lasted a week or so and I had maybe twice a year. The difference this time was that I was on birth control and I believe the hormones altered my balance. So much so that I started seeing lesions in places I never had before. I went to my ob/gyn who recommended I start suppressive therapy. 400mg acyclovir twice a day for a year. It helped tremendously and has really decreased the number of outbreaks. And when I do get outbreaks they last less than a week with outbreak treatment. Im officially done with suppressive treatment and it’s a huge relief to be off so many meds. So I’m looking for natural alternatives to keep it under control.

    #19882
    Taylor
    Participant

    I did scientific research with herpes viruses (in the lab) for several years while doing a graduate degree. One way to stop the virus from infecting cells in cell culture is to treat the cell culture media with an anti-viral like acyclovir. Preserves the cells and kills off the virus.

    For some reason I had the thought the other day that why isn’t there topical applications of acyclovir, valacyclovir, etc.. to be used during an outbreak? This doesn’t address the issue of virus latency nor does it cure the disease since the virus can return to dormancy. What this treatment could do is provide an almost immediate relief of symptoms, which is what is often most debilitating to patients. The skin outbreaks can be painful, causing further infections and can be socially stigmatizing.

    There is one cream (Zovirax) and it is sold for use on cold sores, not genital herpes. Doesn’t really matter, it’s acyclovir suspending in a liquid/paste base. This makes no sense, since HSV 1 and HSV 2 are almost identical in genetic makeup and either can cause cold sores or genital herpes. A topical cream like this could also work for shingles, since that is also a herpes virus.

    My suggestion? Make your own. Take a tablet of acyclovir or valacyclovir and crush it up into a powder using mortar/pestal. Excess can be stored in an airtight container. Using a small amount of a water-based lubricating gel, add in a small amount of the powdered antiviral. Spread this on the blisters 2-3X per day. My guess is that the blisters should disappear completely in about 2-3 days or sooner. If you catch the outbreak at the very onset (like when initial symptoms appear prior to blisters), then no blisters should appear at all.

    I am thinking this could also be enhanced by supplementing orally with zinc. Zinc is known to inhibit viral replication, although the mechanism is unknown. Either the metal binds to surface glycoproteins on the virus preventing the virus from entering the cell or the virus incorporates the zinc as an alternative to another compound that it would normally highjack from the human cellular machinery and thus makes a non-functional (non-replicating) virion particle.

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    In reply to: This SUCKS

    DrNoLove
    Participant

    I just want to second what Dr Kelly has said.

    This doesn’t define you.
    Is it possible that despite this one thing, someone could love you?

    This is one stupid little thing.. and yes, I KNOW (understand) that it affects you DAILY. I get it. But everything else that you are is SO MUCH MORE.

    Consider for a second, that instead of Herpes, you had.. Tuberculosis. It’s a highly contagious infectious disease that can be treated, but often people become lifelong carriers and will test positive for it for the rest of their lives. You have to wear a mask and/or be quarantined to prevent infection spread to others. Treatment for it lasts months upon months. What if you met someone and fell in love – even though you had TB? You’d be scared to kiss him – and maybe he’d be scared to kiss you for fear of getting the disease – but you’d know that he loved you because of you – not because you had an illness..

    Now, TB can kill you – and those around you (remember “consumption” from the movies and history? that was TB). Herpes doesn’t kill you. It’s just some annoying thing that has to be dealt with.

    Hang in there. You are so much more than this…

    Dr. Kelly
    Keymaster

    Okay so I have been dating the same young man for over a year now. We are in love and have discussed marriage in brevity. Seemingly the only problem is that he is an alcoholic. Not a violent or abusive alcoholic but an alcoholic non the less. He is currently in treatment for his addiction. One night he snuck out of the treatment center and got completely wasted. They sent him to detox but they did not require paperwork, they just kind of dropped them off so he called and I agreed to let him stay with me for 3 days. (Stupid I know) This was within the stressful and sleep deprived finals week for my college and I was losing it from head to toe. This must of somehow weakened my immune system and he must have been shedding hs1 when he gave me oral sex, because two days later something weird was definitely going on down there. I called my OB. And I swear if I made it sound like a yeast infection or something she would of scheduled me for June. But at the mention of “herpes” she said “I can get you in at 10:40.” I felt the judgement as soon as I exposed my vulva to my doctor. “That’s it alright” she said soooo casually “Is there anything else it could possibly be?” “I mean that’s what they look like. It doesn’t look like warts. It doesn’t look like yeast. It looks like the Cole sores people get on their mouths” That little swab they used to get the culture hurt so bad and she did not care at all when I screamed in agony. You would expect a more gentler approach with a disease that doesn’t have the stigma. I cried as they drew my blood all the way out the door and on the way home I purposely rolled my car in an attempt to end my own life. I felt like my life was over. That I was forever unclean. No one would ever love me if they knew and a whole bunch of other irrational thoughts. A concussion and a dent in the top of my car… that’s all I got. I called my boyfriend in agony and he just could not relate to the amount of pain I was experiencing. Compared to the horrific events of his life this seemed minor. But it was far from minor for me! Now in an outpatient addiction program I stayed with him and clung to his hip for two days. I started over analyzing and obsessing over everything. I thought I spread it to my eyes because my vision became very blurred. I was so afraid that I was going blind after all I read online. I spent a ton of money to get into they eye doctor and there was no herpes. They said the blurred vision was a result of mixing the oral antiviral and my antidepressant. I lied to my mom a lot during this period. When the outbreak was as it’s worst and I was obviously limping (from the pain) I faked that I just had really bad chafing from all the running I do. “That’s why there’s all of that vasaline in my bathroom too mom.” “Oh that doctor visit on your insurance is from a long time ago” “I gotta go home because I’m tired” really meant that I gotta get some ointment on this before I start crying. My boyfriend then began to break out in herpes. He really did not care that much. Which I thought was odd, but it took the whole talk pressure off of me. The sores have dried up and mostly disappeared at this point. What I am really struggling with is the idea that at 21 years old I now have to marry this man. No one else will ever love me. I am committed and this just became forever. Feeling like I have to stay makes me feel like he can get away with murder. If he can’t get sober, I’m just stuck. There are other men who pursue me and they look more attractive everyday just because I feel that I have to stay in this relationship forever. I mean with this, I don’t have a chance with them anyway. I’m in love with him and I wouldn’t trade him for the world. Just the feeling like I have to stay with him and that I am forced to make such a huge commitment this young is daunting. That doesn’t mean it’s a bad thing to be married to him. I just wish it felt more like a choice, like the way it used to.

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