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  • #22305

    In reply to: Newly Diagnosed


    Liz65
    Participant

    Herpes has associated negative emotional aspects. It’s a vicious circle, herpes can generate stress and stress weakens your immune system and it generates stress. I was very helpful this treatment of genital herpes.

    • This reply was modified 9 months, 1 week ago by  Liz65.
    #22299

    maggie
    Participant

    Hello!

    I’m Maggie (24) and have been diagnosed for 10 months. Although this isn’t necessarily a group I asked to be apart of, I’m glad that there are communities to help one another. I’m slowly accepting my diagnosis.

    I got my first OB last August, 2 months into a new relationship. Since then I had countless visits to the GYNO and it turned out I had trich as well…which was left untreated for a while by my doctors 🙄.

    Now that everything is “cleared up” in terms of tests and treatments, I still suffer from a vaginal rawness/itchiness or tenderness. I take Valtrex daily. I’ve seen similar threads on here about the herpes itch which I am just learning is a thing. Is this tenderness normal with this virus? Does it get better over time?

    Some days I feel sad and lonely with this virus, question if my vagina will ever feel back to normal. I appreciate any insight. Thanks.


    Katididit
    Participant

    oh wow, I got the messages now. Good they are going through. I don’t think name dropping is a problem – goodness knows I’ve dropped plenty. I’m assuming you made the thinning hair comment regarding lysine? This is not the first time I’ve heard this. I’ve also heard lysine isn’t so effective for HSV2, but the jury seems to be out on that one. I am not familiar with Hashimoto’s – a thyroid disease? – but it must be tricky to manage more than one chronic condition.

    I’m glad you read Christopher Scipio’s book, and had a counseling session. The book really calmed me down. Christopher actually lives very close to me – I’m from Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, and we texted back and forth for a while. He also goes by the name Ricardo Scipio – you might want to look that one up – interesting guy:) I’m a starving artist type and couldn’t afford his treatments, although I was most interested in his anti-viral gel, which contains irish moss/carrageenan. I’ve researched the carrageenan lubes, but haven’t found a ‘natural’ one with good ph and osmolality:

    You and I are in quite different situations. As said way back when, I am married and intend to stay that way for now. It’s a good thing my husband and I don’t have sex – that would be very awkward:) I am not seeking a life partner. But if I was, I would likely have many more doubts and misgivings, and would be quite uncertain about how to approach dating. Does a person post on a herpes only site? Does a person disclose in her profile, to weed out judgmental people? I have found so many lack education about herpes – I was no different, and if someone advertised it, I ran away fast. Or does a person wait until a promising relationship develops, then disclose and risk blowing the whole thing out of the water? Or, if outbreaks are few, does a person use condoms and not disclose at all? I have no answers, but know that one day I might face these decisions. So I can totally appreciate what people here are going through. Cheers,
    Kati


    Katididit
    Participant

    Hello!

    Thank you for your message. I truly hope you can move on from this life changing event. I was fortunate in that my bf got tested and diagnosed immediately, so there was no denial. He and I still see each other – even though he has HSV2 he uses a condom now, as I find his direct skin contact irritating.

    Not sure how frequent your outbreaks are, but I’ve only had a (very mild) one in 6 months. During this time I’ve had tremendous family stress, so consider myself lucky. My protocol is simple – Moducare for my immune system, Monolaurin during outbreaks, and the topical Manuka honey. There is lots of information about these things online, and they are easily available from iHerb. I also try to eat a healthy diet and exercise regularly, something I was doing before Herpes.

    I also found an almost humorous, but useful tip online, to deal with urine pain on sores. Sit on the toilet backwards when you pee – the toilet has a slight slope and reversing your position will cause urine to run forward, not back (!) It really works!

    It’s probably blasphemous to mention someone else’s book here, but I found ‘Making Peace With Herpes”, by Christopher Scipio, to be an extremely helpful resource. It helped to put things in perspective and gave useful treatment information.

    I too think it’s a little surreal to have survived this long, only to be caught out at 64. I admit I have not exercised enough caution in the past, and have been living on borrowed time for many years. I am glad I am not 20 – the news would have devastated my 20 year old self. This experience has been a real eye opener. I will never have unprotected sex again, and will approach any new partner with extreme caution. Even kissing is cause for concern. Goodness knows this could have been far worse – my partner could have had HIV.

    In spite of everything, I feel like I’ve dodged a bullet.

    I wish you well. Feel free to contact me anytime.

    Take care,

    Kati


    Katididit
    Participant

    I haven’t checked back here in several months, and am most gratified to read all of your responses. I have been truly blessed. It’s now coming up to 6 months from diagnosis, and I have learned so much. I had a second, extremely mild OB 3 months ago, but it’s been clear sailing ever since. I believe I am one of the lucky ones. There have been no doctors, nor have I taken any more Valtrex. I’m still on the Moducare for immune, but have discontinued the Monolaurin for now. (I did increase the Monolaurin during my second outbreak, which really only lasted for 36 hours). Still seeing the 3 very supportive men.The only thing that’s changed is that they now wear condoms. That and a nice cleansing shower afterwards. No big deal at all. For genital irritation I highly recommend Manuka honey. It’s kinda sticky but has worked where nothing else did. There is very little prodrome now, and I can forget I have this thing for days, weeks at a time. If anyone would like help with natural treatments, please ask. I would love to share. Best wishes to all, especially you fellow boomers. Rock on! Kati

    #15430

    In reply to:


    EJFM

    The reason for my seeking support and knowledge now is that I feel like I was in a bit of denial or nonchalance for so many years – I was diagnosed with HSV2 after having sex with a guy using a condom one time. The next year, I got married and didn’t disclose – I have other chronic diseases (type 1 diabetes and thyroiditis) and had had HPV / abnormal pap in college. Perhaps I thought this wasn’t as serious or required so much attention or didn’t want to admit that I could infect others, not sure now. But anyway, I very rarely had outbreaks and treated them much like the rest of my vaginal health – with T1D, I have frequent Bacterial and Yeast infections, and so was super aware of changes, would treat appropriately, and abstain from sex during treatment and outbreaks alike. And as I stated, never had frequent outbreaks. At one point during my marriage, I talked to my husband about it, he also had symptoms and we agreed that we didn’t have much information about who infected whom, although in retrospect, I probably was afraid to own up to it. He was probably cheating on me anyway, so he avoided the topic and we went about our lives.

    Fast forward I divorced my husband about 5 years ago, while pregnant with our second child. I started a wonderful relationship with a man a year after and still did not think about disclosing until I had symptoms, told him, and treated it. He took it very well, we had protected sex, we were diligent about checking each other for symptoms and outbreaks and we carried on. That relationship ended for other reasons after 3 years. To my knowledge, he did not contract HSV from me at all.

    Starting last summer, I began dating again, and definitely taking advantage of my 40-something sex drive, and was casually seeing a couple of men at the same time, mostly using protection until committing to one person about 4 or 5 months ago. I STILL DID NOT have ‘the talk!’ I guess I believed that because outbreaks were so infrequent, and I was so aware, that my risk of transmitting to him was very low – at least as low as him or I just being out and having sex socially would be. Meaning that the level of risk was equivalent to our previous sex lives experience.

    I had a recent outbreak following sex, just before he left to visit family on a vacation. I contacted him right away and told him that I had a HSV outbreak and he should keep an eye out for any symptoms. I again, took it seriously, but from a quite clinical point of view, and didn’t consider his possible range of reactions. He completely freaked out. Many angst-filled text messages (he refused to take my calls) it was CLEAR that he was operating from a place of fear and ignorance and I was completely oblivious of the impact that my blunt honesty would have on him. I still haven’t seen him in person, we plan to on Sunday, because following his trip, I am now on a work trip abroad. I feel like on Sunday I have to explain myself, my rationale, admit my mistake in not disclosing sooner, AND do some serious evidence based education with him. I feel pretty awful about hurting him and betraying him. I really would never have intended that, and that has been really tough on me, not that I expect any sympathy from him.

    His reaction made me dig deeper and seek more knowledge than I ever have on HSV. I asked the dr. for a culture, confirmed I have HSV2. I feel like the shaming, the unworthiness, the stigma, has all just come to a head with me, 18 years after initial diagnosis. I also read up a lot more on risk of transmission and prevention of symptoms, and am more educated so that I can talk to him about it. I still have many questions though.

    I’ve also realized, in this experience, that I seek a more informed, communicative, and loving partner, than he has ever been able to exhibit. Its a new relationship, and I had had some reservations about him in these areas, but whats super clear now, in how this whole thing has been handled, is that in his current state of being, he is not the right partner for me. Of course I feel terrible for having exposed him (although truthfully, he admitted to having HSV1) but I don’t believe he really knows his status, and will ask him to be tested.

    So, I’m here to learn from your experiences, and figure out where to go from here with my new attitude and information. And wish me luck, on Sunday, when I finally have ‘the talk’ that I should have had many months ago. Although, I bet I wouldn’t have even been in this relationship if I had disclosed before. I think he would have chosen fear and stigma over getting to know me. And that says a lot, I guess.

    Sorry for long intro.
    Peace & light & health

    #16342

    In reply to:


    EJFM

    The reason for my seeking support and knowledge now is that I feel like I was in a bit of denial or nonchalance for so many years – I was diagnosed with HSV2 after having sex with a guy using a condom one time. The next year, I got married and didn’t disclose – I have other chronic diseases (type 1 diabetes and thyroiditis) and had had HPV / abnormal pap in college. Perhaps I thought this wasn’t as serious or required so much attention or didn’t want to admit that I could infect others, not sure now. But anyway, I very rarely had outbreaks and treated them much like the rest of my vaginal health – with T1D, I have frequent Bacterial and Yeast infections, and so was super aware of changes, would treat appropriately, and abstain from sex during treatment and outbreaks alike. And as I stated, never had frequent outbreaks. At one point during my marriage, I talked to my husband about it, he also had symptoms and we agreed that we didn’t have much information about who infected whom, although in retrospect, I probably was afraid to own up to it. He was probably cheating on me anyway, so he avoided the topic and we went about our lives.

    Fast forward I divorced my husband about 5 years ago, while pregnant with our second child. I started a wonderful relationship with a man a year after and still did not think about disclosing until I had symptoms, told him, and treated it. He took it very well, we had protected sex, we were diligent about checking each other for symptoms and outbreaks and we carried on. That relationship ended for other reasons after 3 years. To my knowledge, he did not contract HSV from me at all.

    Starting last summer, I began dating again, and definitely taking advantage of my 40-something sex drive, and was casually seeing a couple of men at the same time, mostly using protection until committing to one person about 4 or 5 months ago. I STILL DID NOT have ‘the talk!’ I guess I believed that because outbreaks were so infrequent, and I was so aware, that my risk of transmitting to him was very low – at least as low as him or I just being out and having sex socially would be. Meaning that the level of risk was equivalent to our previous sex lives experience.

    I had a recent outbreak following sex, just before he left to visit family on a vacation. I contacted him right away and told him that I had a HSV outbreak and he should keep an eye out for any symptoms. I again, took it seriously, but from a quite clinical point of view, and didn’t consider his possible range of reactions. He completely freaked out. Many angst-filled text messages (he refused to take my calls) it was CLEAR that he was operating from a place of fear and ignorance and I was completely oblivious of the impact that my blunt honesty would have on him. I still haven’t seen him in person, we plan to on Sunday, because following his trip, I am now on a work trip abroad. I feel like on Sunday I have to explain myself, my rationale, admit my mistake in not disclosing sooner, AND do some serious evidence based education with him. I feel pretty awful about hurting him and betraying him. I really would never have intended that, and that has been really tough on me, not that I expect any sympathy from him.

    His reaction made me dig deeper and seek more knowledge than I ever have on HSV. I asked the dr. for a culture, confirmed I have HSV2. I feel like the shaming, the unworthiness, the stigma, has all just come to a head with me, 18 years after initial diagnosis. I also read up a lot more on risk of transmission and prevention of symptoms, and am more educated so that I can talk to him about it. I still have many questions though.

    I’ve also realized, in this experience, that I seek a more informed, communicative, and loving partner, than he has ever been able to exhibit. Its a new relationship, and I had had some reservations about him in these areas, but whats super clear now, in how this whole thing has been handled, is that in his current state of being, he is not the right partner for me. Of course I feel terrible for having exposed him (although truthfully, he admitted to having HSV1) but I don’t believe he really knows his status, and will ask him to be tested.

    So, I’m here to learn from your experiences, and figure out where to go from here with my new attitude and information. And wish me luck, on Sunday, when I finally have ‘the talk’ that I should have had many months ago. Although, I bet I wouldn’t have even been in this relationship if I had disclosed before. I think he would have chosen fear and stigma over getting to know me. And that says a lot, I guess.

    Sorry for long intro.
    Peace & light & health

    #18657

    EJFM

    The reason for my seeking support and knowledge now is that I feel like I was in a bit of denial or nonchalance for so many years – I was diagnosed with HSV2 after having sex with a guy using a condom one time. The next year, I got married and didn’t disclose – I have other chronic diseases (type 1 diabetes and thyroiditis) and had had HPV / abnormal pap in college. Perhaps I thought this wasn’t as serious or required so much attention or didn’t want to admit that I could infect others, not sure now. But anyway, I very rarely had outbreaks and treated them much like the rest of my vaginal health – with T1D, I have frequent Bacterial and Yeast infections, and so was super aware of changes, would treat appropriately, and abstain from sex during treatment and outbreaks alike. And as I stated, never had frequent outbreaks. At one point during my marriage, I talked to my husband about it, he also had symptoms and we agreed that we didn’t have much information about who infected whom, although in retrospect, I probably was afraid to own up to it. He was probably cheating on me anyway, so he avoided the topic and we went about our lives.

    Fast forward I divorced my husband about 5 years ago, while pregnant with our second child. I started a wonderful relationship with a man a year after and still did not think about disclosing until I had symptoms, told him, and treated it. He took it very well, we had protected sex, we were diligent about checking each other for symptoms and outbreaks and we carried on. That relationship ended for other reasons after 3 years. To my knowledge, he did not contract HSV from me at all.

    Starting last summer, I began dating again, and definitely taking advantage of my 40-something sex drive, and was casually seeing a couple of men at the same time, mostly using protection until committing to one person about 4 or 5 months ago. I STILL DID NOT have ‘the talk!’ I guess I believed that because outbreaks were so infrequent, and I was so aware, that my risk of transmitting to him was very low – at least as low as him or I just being out and having sex socially would be. Meaning that the level of risk was equivalent to our previous sex lives experience.

    I had a recent outbreak following sex, just before he left to visit family on a vacation. I contacted him right away and told him that I had a HSV outbreak and he should keep an eye out for any symptoms. I again, took it seriously, but from a quite clinical point of view, and didn’t consider his possible range of reactions. He completely freaked out. Many angst-filled text messages (he refused to take my calls) it was CLEAR that he was operating from a place of fear and ignorance and I was completely oblivious of the impact that my blunt honesty would have on him. I still haven’t seen him in person, we plan to on Sunday, because following his trip, I am now on a work trip abroad. I feel like on Sunday I have to explain myself, my rationale, admit my mistake in not disclosing sooner, AND do some serious evidence based education with him. I feel pretty awful about hurting him and betraying him. I really would never have intended that, and that has been really tough on me, not that I expect any sympathy from him.

    His reaction made me dig deeper and seek more knowledge than I ever have on HSV. I asked the dr. for a culture, confirmed I have HSV2. I feel like the shaming, the unworthiness, the stigma, has all just come to a head with me, 18 years after initial diagnosis. I also read up a lot more on risk of transmission and prevention of symptoms, and am more educated so that I can talk to him about it. I still have many questions though.

    I’ve also realized, in this experience, that I seek a more informed, communicative, and loving partner, than he has ever been able to exhibit. Its a new relationship, and I had had some reservations about him in these areas, but whats super clear now, in how this whole thing has been handled, is that in his current state of being, he is not the right partner for me. Of course I feel terrible for having exposed him (although truthfully, he admitted to having HSV1) but I don’t believe he really knows his status, and will ask him to be tested.

    So, I’m here to learn from your experiences, and figure out where to go from here with my new attitude and information. And wish me luck, on Sunday, when I finally have ‘the talk’ that I should have had many months ago. Although, I bet I wouldn’t have even been in this relationship if I had disclosed before. I think he would have chosen fear and stigma over getting to know me. And that says a lot, I guess.

    Sorry for long intro.
    Peace & light & health

    #20696

    EJFM

    The reason for my seeking support and knowledge now is that I feel like I was in a bit of denial or nonchalance for so many years – I was diagnosed with HSV2 after having sex with a guy using a condom one time. The next year, I got married and didn’t disclose – I have other chronic diseases (type 1 diabetes and thyroiditis) and had had HPV / abnormal pap in college. Perhaps I thought this wasn’t as serious or required so much attention or didn’t want to admit that I could infect others, not sure now. But anyway, I very rarely had outbreaks and treated them much like the rest of my vaginal health – with T1D, I have frequent Bacterial and Yeast infections, and so was super aware of changes, would treat appropriately, and abstain from sex during treatment and outbreaks alike. And as I stated, never had frequent outbreaks. At one point during my marriage, I talked to my husband about it, he also had symptoms and we agreed that we didn’t have much information about who infected whom, although in retrospect, I probably was afraid to own up to it. He was probably cheating on me anyway, so he avoided the topic and we went about our lives.

    Fast forward I divorced my husband about 5 years ago, while pregnant with our second child. I started a wonderful relationship with a man a year after and still did not think about disclosing until I had symptoms, told him, and treated it. He took it very well, we had protected sex, we were diligent about checking each other for symptoms and outbreaks and we carried on. That relationship ended for other reasons after 3 years. To my knowledge, he did not contract HSV from me at all.

    Starting last summer, I began dating again, and definitely taking advantage of my 40-something sex drive, and was casually seeing a couple of men at the same time, mostly using protection until committing to one person about 4 or 5 months ago. I STILL DID NOT have ‘the talk!’ I guess I believed that because outbreaks were so infrequent, and I was so aware, that my risk of transmitting to him was very low – at least as low as him or I just being out and having sex socially would be. Meaning that the level of risk was equivalent to our previous sex lives experience.

    I had a recent outbreak following sex, just before he left to visit family on a vacation. I contacted him right away and told him that I had a HSV outbreak and he should keep an eye out for any symptoms. I again, took it seriously, but from a quite clinical point of view, and didn’t consider his possible range of reactions. He completely freaked out. Many angst-filled text messages (he refused to take my calls) it was CLEAR that he was operating from a place of fear and ignorance and I was completely oblivious of the impact that my blunt honesty would have on him. I still haven’t seen him in person, we plan to on Sunday, because following his trip, I am now on a work trip abroad. I feel like on Sunday I have to explain myself, my rationale, admit my mistake in not disclosing sooner, AND do some serious evidence based education with him. I feel pretty awful about hurting him and betraying him. I really would never have intended that, and that has been really tough on me, not that I expect any sympathy from him.

    His reaction made me dig deeper and seek more knowledge than I ever have on HSV. I asked the dr. for a culture, confirmed I have HSV2. I feel like the shaming, the unworthiness, the stigma, has all just come to a head with me, 18 years after initial diagnosis. I also read up a lot more on risk of transmission and prevention of symptoms, and am more educated so that I can talk to him about it. I still have many questions though.

    I’ve also realized, in this experience, that I seek a more informed, communicative, and loving partner, than he has ever been able to exhibit. Its a new relationship, and I had had some reservations about him in these areas, but whats super clear now, in how this whole thing has been handled, is that in his current state of being, he is not the right partner for me. Of course I feel terrible for having exposed him (although truthfully, he admitted to having HSV1) but I don’t believe he really knows his status, and will ask him to be tested.

    So, I’m here to learn from your experiences, and figure out where to go from here with my new attitude and information. And wish me luck, on Sunday, when I finally have ‘the talk’ that I should have had many months ago. Although, I bet I wouldn’t have even been in this relationship if I had disclosed before. I think he would have chosen fear and stigma over getting to know me. And that says a lot, I guess.

    Sorry for long intro.
    Peace & light & health

    #15415

    In reply to:


    JustaGuy

    I have a very peculiar statement slash question…… I have been AVIDLY chasing ANY and ALL degrees and ways for Herpes treatment. I got online and found in the middle of a forum somewhere a woman that stated that Zim’s Max Crack Creme for lip treatment was according to her a VERY successful treatment when directly applied to a sore she got almost INSTANT success with both pain AND healing. I of course in FULL DOUBT but was willing to try ANYTHING at this point as i had a sore on my lip that was GROWING larger and larger. It is a SPLIT in my lip that of course is directly inline with saliva that contaminates it directly with the Virus Herpes with really no way to prevent it from getting worse. I searched HIGH and LOW for the Zim’s crack creme lip formula that the woman had directly mentioned had worked but could not locate it ANYWHERE!! Which of course made me even more determined to find a source. In my search i coming up short “we don’t carry that anymore” to “out of stock” to “NOT AVAILABLE” were repeatedly the website and outlet responses. In my frustration i decided i would just buy some Zim’s Crack Creme in another form and attempt to see if it helps AT ALL. I am a mechanic, so my hands are my LIFE. I was starting to see that my FINGERS where getting more and more sore as time went on. I realized that i had been using my hands to cup the water to rinse my mouth out while attempting to keep my mouth at least clean in my imagination. Knowing that just rinsing my mouth out helped nothing regardless of what mouthwash or dental rinse i used. So in this realization that i was spreading the Virus to my hands through rinsing them with my moth making contact with them. I decided to get at least a hand creme from the Zim’s line. in the mean time while i searched for Zim’s lip creme. I am in NO WAY trying to sell ANYTHING for anyone. However this stuff WORKS!!!! I lost ALL pain in my hands, literally INSTANTLY. I have no idea but have it does it’s thing but my suspicions that EITHER Arnica or Aloe Vera or in some way the COMBINATION of the two are the reason why it works so well. Like this woman i found who was just trying to HELP ANYONE that would listen, i want to HELP EVERYONE that is in pain, it is NOT EXPENSIVE it costed me like 6 bucks for the tube. I used it on the crack in my lip several times during the evening, the pain was effected IMMEDIATELY and the following day the sore is ALMOST totally gone. Now i don’t know if this will last or anything successful occurring with this Virus OTHER than simply RELIEF of THAT sore. But wen dealing with Herpes pain and it being SOOOO determined to STICK around no matter WHAT i tried THIS STUFF WORKED!!!! OMG success against Herpes in ANY form to me is a simple step FORWARD rather than struggling with attempts and going further and further BACKWARDS…… Just TRY IT, don’t ignore THIS post, like i said i FIX CARS i don’t sell magic potions of any sort. I just want people to see and FEEL the success that i FINALLY HAVE…. I am betting that is WHY the lip formula is gone everywhere as other people have figured this out as well, OR the evil drug companies have intercepted this and made it less available somehow. I am hoping that its just sold out because a drug company like Valtrex or whatever intercepting this treatment source would be absolutely SATANIC to prevent it from being used… Use it, JUST TRY it!!! then come back HERE and TELL people about it!!!! It is a hand cream but put it on a dried with a napkin cold sore and FEEL IT!!!!! This is my first morning after treatment so i don’t have any news about HOW LONG it will last but the split in my lip is almost entirely GONE!!!!! Talk about a Herpes SILVER BULLET……. i am finally able to SMILE this morning without getting a split open bloody sore lip…..

    #16327

    In reply to:


    JustaGuy

    I have a very peculiar statement slash question…… I have been AVIDLY chasing ANY and ALL degrees and ways for Herpes treatment. I got online and found in the middle of a forum somewhere a woman that stated that Zim’s Max Crack Creme for lip treatment was according to her a VERY successful treatment when directly applied to a sore she got almost INSTANT success with both pain AND healing. I of course in FULL DOUBT but was willing to try ANYTHING at this point as i had a sore on my lip that was GROWING larger and larger. It is a SPLIT in my lip that of course is directly inline with saliva that contaminates it directly with the Virus Herpes with really no way to prevent it from getting worse. I searched HIGH and LOW for the Zim’s crack creme lip formula that the woman had directly mentioned had worked but could not locate it ANYWHERE!! Which of course made me even more determined to find a source. In my search i coming up short “we don’t carry that anymore” to “out of stock” to “NOT AVAILABLE” were repeatedly the website and outlet responses. In my frustration i decided i would just buy some Zim’s Crack Creme in another form and attempt to see if it helps AT ALL. I am a mechanic, so my hands are my LIFE. I was starting to see that my FINGERS where getting more and more sore as time went on. I realized that i had been using my hands to cup the water to rinse my mouth out while attempting to keep my mouth at least clean in my imagination. Knowing that just rinsing my mouth out helped nothing regardless of what mouthwash or dental rinse i used. So in this realization that i was spreading the Virus to my hands through rinsing them with my moth making contact with them. I decided to get at least a hand creme from the Zim’s line. in the mean time while i searched for Zim’s lip creme. I am in NO WAY trying to sell ANYTHING for anyone. However this stuff WORKS!!!! I lost ALL pain in my hands, literally INSTANTLY. I have no idea but have it does it’s thing but my suspicions that EITHER Arnica or Aloe Vera or in some way the COMBINATION of the two are the reason why it works so well. Like this woman i found who was just trying to HELP ANYONE that would listen, i want to HELP EVERYONE that is in pain, it is NOT EXPENSIVE it costed me like 6 bucks for the tube. I used it on the crack in my lip several times during the evening, the pain was effected IMMEDIATELY and the following day the sore is ALMOST totally gone. Now i don’t know if this will last or anything successful occurring with this Virus OTHER than simply RELIEF of THAT sore. But wen dealing with Herpes pain and it being SOOOO determined to STICK around no matter WHAT i tried THIS STUFF WORKED!!!! OMG success against Herpes in ANY form to me is a simple step FORWARD rather than struggling with attempts and going further and further BACKWARDS…… Just TRY IT, don’t ignore THIS post, like i said i FIX CARS i don’t sell magic potions of any sort. I just want people to see and FEEL the success that i FINALLY HAVE…. I am betting that is WHY the lip formula is gone everywhere as other people have figured this out as well, OR the evil drug companies have intercepted this and made it less available somehow. I am hoping that its just sold out because a drug company like Valtrex or whatever intercepting this treatment source would be absolutely SATANIC to prevent it from being used… Use it, JUST TRY it!!! then come back HERE and TELL people about it!!!! It is a hand cream but put it on a dried with a napkin cold sore and FEEL IT!!!!! This is my first morning after treatment so i don’t have any news about HOW LONG it will last but the split in my lip is almost entirely GONE!!!!! Talk about a Herpes SILVER BULLET……. i am finally able to SMILE this morning without getting a split open bloody sore lip…..

    #18627

    In reply to:


    JustaGuy

    I have a very peculiar statement slash question…… I have been AVIDLY chasing ANY and ALL degrees and ways for Herpes treatment. I got online and found in the middle of a forum somewhere a woman that stated that Zim’s Max Crack Creme for lip treatment was according to her a VERY successful treatment when directly applied to a sore she got almost INSTANT success with both pain AND healing. I of course in FULL DOUBT but was willing to try ANYTHING at this point as i had a sore on my lip that was GROWING larger and larger. It is a SPLIT in my lip that of course is directly inline with saliva that contaminates it directly with the Virus Herpes with really no way to prevent it from getting worse. I searched HIGH and LOW for the Zim’s crack creme lip formula that the woman had directly mentioned had worked but could not locate it ANYWHERE!! Which of course made me even more determined to find a source. In my search i coming up short “we don’t carry that anymore” to “out of stock” to “NOT AVAILABLE” were repeatedly the website and outlet responses. In my frustration i decided i would just buy some Zim’s Crack Creme in another form and attempt to see if it helps AT ALL. I am a mechanic, so my hands are my LIFE. I was starting to see that my FINGERS where getting more and more sore as time went on. I realized that i had been using my hands to cup the water to rinse my mouth out while attempting to keep my mouth at least clean in my imagination. Knowing that just rinsing my mouth out helped nothing regardless of what mouthwash or dental rinse i used. So in this realization that i was spreading the Virus to my hands through rinsing them with my moth making contact with them. I decided to get at least a hand creme from the Zim’s line. in the mean time while i searched for Zim’s lip creme. I am in NO WAY trying to sell ANYTHING for anyone. However this stuff WORKS!!!! I lost ALL pain in my hands, literally INSTANTLY. I have no idea but have it does it’s thing but my suspicions that EITHER Arnica or Aloe Vera or in some way the COMBINATION of the two are the reason why it works so well. Like this woman i found who was just trying to HELP ANYONE that would listen, i want to HELP EVERYONE that is in pain, it is NOT EXPENSIVE it costed me like 6 bucks for the tube. I used it on the crack in my lip several times during the evening, the pain was effected IMMEDIATELY and the following day the sore is ALMOST totally gone. Now i don’t know if this will last or anything successful occurring with this Virus OTHER than simply RELIEF of THAT sore. But wen dealing with Herpes pain and it being SOOOO determined to STICK around no matter WHAT i tried THIS STUFF WORKED!!!! OMG success against Herpes in ANY form to me is a simple step FORWARD rather than struggling with attempts and going further and further BACKWARDS…… Just TRY IT, don’t ignore THIS post, like i said i FIX CARS i don’t sell magic potions of any sort. I just want people to see and FEEL the success that i FINALLY HAVE…. I am betting that is WHY the lip formula is gone everywhere as other people have figured this out as well, OR the evil drug companies have intercepted this and made it less available somehow. I am hoping that its just sold out because a drug company like Valtrex or whatever intercepting this treatment source would be absolutely SATANIC to prevent it from being used… Use it, JUST TRY it!!! then come back HERE and TELL people about it!!!! It is a hand cream but put it on a dried with a napkin cold sore and FEEL IT!!!!! This is my first morning after treatment so i don’t have any news about HOW LONG it will last but the split in my lip is almost entirely GONE!!!!! Talk about a Herpes SILVER BULLET……. i am finally able to SMILE this morning without getting a split open bloody sore lip…..

    #17222

    In reply to:


    JustaGuy

    I have a very peculiar statement slash question…… I have been AVIDLY chasing ANY and ALL degrees and ways for Herpes treatment. I got online and found in the middle of a forum somewhere a woman that stated that Zim’s Max Crack Creme for lip treatment was according to her a VERY successful treatment when directly applied to a sore she got almost INSTANT success with both pain AND healing. I of course in FULL DOUBT but was willing to try ANYTHING at this point as i had a sore on my lip that was GROWING larger and larger. It is a SPLIT in my lip that of course is directly inline with saliva that contaminates it directly with the Virus Herpes with really no way to prevent it from getting worse. I searched HIGH and LOW for the Zim’s crack creme lip formula that the woman had directly mentioned had worked but could not locate it ANYWHERE!! Which of course made me even more determined to find a source. In my search i coming up short “we don’t carry that anymore” to “out of stock” to “NOT AVAILABLE” were repeatedly the website and outlet responses. In my frustration i decided i would just buy some Zim’s Crack Creme in another form and attempt to see if it helps AT ALL. I am a mechanic, so my hands are my LIFE. I was starting to see that my FINGERS where getting more and more sore as time went on. I realized that i had been using my hands to cup the water to rinse my mouth out while attempting to keep my mouth at least clean in my imagination. Knowing that just rinsing my mouth out helped nothing regardless of what mouthwash or dental rinse i used. So in this realization that i was spreading the Virus to my hands through rinsing them with my moth making contact with them. I decided to get at least a hand creme from the Zim’s line. in the mean time while i searched for Zim’s lip creme. I am in NO WAY trying to sell ANYTHING for anyone. However this stuff WORKS!!!! I lost ALL pain in my hands, literally INSTANTLY. I have no idea but have it does it’s thing but my suspicions that EITHER Arnica or Aloe Vera or in some way the COMBINATION of the two are the reason why it works so well. Like this woman i found who was just trying to HELP ANYONE that would listen, i want to HELP EVERYONE that is in pain, it is NOT EXPENSIVE it costed me like 6 bucks for the tube. I used it on the crack in my lip several times during the evening, the pain was effected IMMEDIATELY and the following day the sore is ALMOST totally gone. Now i don’t know if this will last or anything successful occurring with this Virus OTHER than simply RELIEF of THAT sore. But wen dealing with Herpes pain and it being SOOOO determined to STICK around no matter WHAT i tried THIS STUFF WORKED!!!! OMG success against Herpes in ANY form to me is a simple step FORWARD rather than struggling with attempts and going further and further BACKWARDS…… Just TRY IT, don’t ignore THIS post, like i said i FIX CARS i don’t sell magic potions of any sort. I just want people to see and FEEL the success that i FINALLY HAVE…. I am betting that is WHY the lip formula is gone everywhere as other people have figured this out as well, OR the evil drug companies have intercepted this and made it less available somehow. I am hoping that its just sold out because a drug company like Valtrex or whatever intercepting this treatment source would be absolutely SATANIC to prevent it from being used… Use it, JUST TRY it!!! then come back HERE and TELL people about it!!!! It is a hand cream but put it on a dried with a napkin cold sore and FEEL IT!!!!! This is my first morning after treatment so i don’t have any news about HOW LONG it will last but the split in my lip is almost entirely GONE!!!!! Talk about a Herpes SILVER BULLET……. i am finally able to SMILE this morning without getting a split open bloody sore lip…..

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    In reply to: Question to dr kelly


    JustaGuy

    I have a very peculiar statement slash question…… I have been AVIDLY chasing ANY and ALL degrees and ways for Herpes treatment. I got online and found in the middle of a forum somewhere a woman that stated that Zim’s Max Crack Creme for lip treatment was according to her a VERY successful treatment when directly applied to a sore she got almost INSTANT success with both pain AND healing. I of course in FULL DOUBT but was willing to try ANYTHING at this point as i had a sore on my lip that was GROWING larger and larger. It is a SPLIT in my lip that of course is directly inline with saliva that contaminates it directly with the Virus Herpes with really no way to prevent it from getting worse. I searched HIGH and LOW for the Zim’s crack creme lip formula that the woman had directly mentioned had worked but could not locate it ANYWHERE!! Which of course made me even more determined to find a source. In my search i coming up short “we don’t carry that anymore” to “out of stock” to “NOT AVAILABLE” were repeatedly the website and outlet responses. In my frustration i decided i would just buy some Zim’s Crack Creme in another form and attempt to see if it helps AT ALL. I am a mechanic, so my hands are my LIFE. I was starting to see that my FINGERS where getting more and more sore as time went on. I realized that i had been using my hands to cup the water to rinse my mouth out while attempting to keep my mouth at least clean in my imagination. Knowing that just rinsing my mouth out helped nothing regardless of what mouthwash or dental rinse i used. So in this realization that i was spreading the Virus to my hands through rinsing them with my moth making contact with them. I decided to get at least a hand creme from the Zim’s line. in the mean time while i searched for Zim’s lip creme. I am in NO WAY trying to sell ANYTHING for anyone. However this stuff WORKS!!!! I lost ALL pain in my hands, literally INSTANTLY. I have no idea but have it does it’s thing but my suspicions that EITHER Arnica or Aloe Vera or in some way the COMBINATION of the two are the reason why it works so well. Like this woman i found who was just trying to HELP ANYONE that would listen, i want to HELP EVERYONE that is in pain, it is NOT EXPENSIVE it costed me like 6 bucks for the tube. I used it on the crack in my lip several times during the evening, the pain was effected IMMEDIATELY and the following day the sore is ALMOST totally gone. Now i don’t know if this will last or anything successful occurring with this Virus OTHER than simply RELIEF of THAT sore. But wen dealing with Herpes pain and it being SOOOO determined to STICK around no matter WHAT i tried THIS STUFF WORKED!!!! OMG success against Herpes in ANY form to me is a simple step FORWARD rather than struggling with attempts and going further and further BACKWARDS…… Just TRY IT, don’t ignore THIS post, like i said i FIX CARS i don’t sell magic potions of any sort. I just want people to see and FEEL the success that i FINALLY HAVE…. I am betting that is WHY the lip formula is gone everywhere as other people have figured this out as well, OR the evil drug companies have intercepted this and made it less available somehow. I am hoping that its just sold out because a drug company like Valtrex or whatever intercepting this treatment source would be absolutely SATANIC to prevent it from being used… Use it, JUST TRY it!!! then come back HERE and TELL people about it!!!! It is a hand cream but put it on a dried with a napkin cold sore and FEEL IT!!!!! This is my first morning after treatment so i don’t have any news about HOW LONG it will last but the split in my lip is almost entirely GONE!!!!! Talk about a Herpes SILVER BULLET……. i am finally able to SMILE this morning without getting a split open bloody sore lip…..


    Katididit

    I’m 64 and have been married for 40 years. My husband and I are like room mates and no longer have sex. 17 years ago I began seeing other men. I currently have 3 FWBs that I see occasionally – 2 I’ve known for 3 years and the third for 9 months. The 2 long term ones tested negatively for STDs when we met, as did I. The more recent FWB I took at his word when he said he’d never had an STD symptom. Silly me. About a month ago I was hit with the ‘mother of all yeast infections’ that quickly turned into something much worse. Herpes has always scared me, and as I read up on the symptoms I realized I was experiencing them one by one. It was horrifying.

    I was diagnosed with HSV2. The OB was harsh, complete with oozing, stinking sores, excruciating urination, fever, rapid weight loss, and extreme leg pain. 5 weeks later I’m a lot better, but still have significant genital discomfort.

    I informed my partners immediately. One of the long term ones has tested negative for HSV, for which I am extremely thankful. The second long term partner has not gone in for testing yet, but I’m optimistic he too will be negative. The 9 month FWB tested positive for HSV2. He still swears he’s never had any symptoms. Whether or not this is true I don’t know, but he remains serenely asymptomatic while I’ve gone through purgatory. My partners have all been extremely supportive.

    Like many I’ve run a gamut of emotions and am trying to sort them all out. After the first shock, the biggest challenge has been not to let this define me. The knowledge is like a stain that won’t wash out. I have learned so much, including the fact that HSV testing is not standard, so if I’d sent my 9 month partner for testing, I’d still be in the same situation.

    I fluctuate between disbelief, anger, resentment and uncertainty. I do not feel shame or embarrassment, just a little foolish for not being better informed.

    Figuring out a new sexual protocol has been interesting.

    I’ve had 2 sessions with Valtrex, and am now working on shoring up my immune system. Moducare is an immune balancer that helped my sick dog for many years, so I’m trying that. I’ve also ordered Monolaurin, an anti-viral, so will give that a go. I figure prevention is better than treatment. Still looking for a magic bullet for the nether regions.

    This is a very long post. It’s good to get it all out, as I often feel very much alone. If you have made it this far, thank you. Any tips on bolstering the immune system and calming the raging vulva will be most appreciated.

    My heart and hand go out to you all, and particularly to the baby boomers on here.

    Kati

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